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Would you ever leave?

Something I’ve been thinking about a bit in the last few days is the following question:

Are there political circumstances, less than dictatorship or communism etc, that would make you leave the UK for another country, say the USA?

For instance, for all conservatives reading, suppose that Britain became very obviously a region in a European state.  Suppose that we approached Swedish levels of taxation. Suppose the counties lost virtually all power to regional assemblies. Suppose Parliament lost all power to Brussels. All weights and measures everywhere must be solely metric including distance and beer. Suppose our military was unable to act independently of Continental political support. Suppose the United States no longer considered us a partner militarily or diplomatically. Suppose the common law was rationalised into a Roman system to permit greater integration. Suppose that Britain was a republic, with proportional representation and state funded political parties. Suppose there were European taxes, a harmonised exam system at 16 and 18, and a common European university degree qualification. Suppose the European Social Model and Polly Toynbee triumphed completely.

Would you stick around? Or would you prefer to live in a country that respected your political beliefs, and was created from the traditions that had been destroyed in Britain?

For myself, I really don’t know. I love my country, but like Rand, maybe I demand reasons to love it as well.

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The Manolo he loves the capitalism!

Political support from an unlikely source:

However, here for the Black Friday are the Manolo’s political beliefs, summed up in the following short statements.

1) Everyone has the right to be super fantastic. The Manolo he is the proud and strong believer in the personal freedoms, in the ability of the autonomous individual to dress in manner he or she desires (even if the manner chosen it is awful).

2) Manolo loves the Capitalism! Nothing is more worthy of the ridicule than the fashion sense of the dictators, politburos, autocrats, and tyrants. For the example, the most horrible, deadening, life-sucking piece of the fashion ever invented, it is the Mao suit, for it reduces the individual to the mere cog in the ideological machine. Happily we live in the system in which the marketplace it is free to deliver to the peoples the beautiful clothes, enabling each individual to dress in the manner he or she chooses.

I don’t know why I read this guy. I have no love for shoes but his third person thing just tickles me. He’s a he right?

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Following some suburban disturbances - and two deaths - in Paris:

M Sarkozy, said that seventeen companies of riot police and seven mobile police brigades would be permanently stationed in difficult neighbourhoods, while plainclothes officers would be sent in to identify “gang leaders, drug traffickers and big shots”.

M Sarkozy’s comments stunned left-wing politicians, who called for an orthodox government response, with public money for education, housing and job creation schemes.

Even M Sarkozy’s Cabinet colleague, Azouz Begag, the Minister for Promotion of Equal Opportunities, criticised him for describing violent youths as “scum”.

M Begag said: “You should not tell these youths you’re going to get stuck into them and send in the police. You should try to appease them.” (The Times)

How unimaginable would it be for a government politician in this country to say “we should appease them”? Is that a joke or something?

After consulting with my half-French colleague it’s clear that the translation is accurate but that ‘promoting appeasement’ isn’t the same sort of don’t-go-there political dangerzone that it would be in this country. I suppose it’s just our generally right-wing nature coupled with Chamberlain that just hits this form of words in particular.

After all, we can’t claim appeasement isn’t popular in this country. But even these guys would never call it that.

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So, the AUN!’s discussion of my Anglosphere constitution makes some good points.

We now have two competing constitutions. Mine and theirs, one much more comprehensive than the other :-).

AUN! has amended my constitution here and here. It is now much more comprehensive on the details, and has too many other small improvements to note here.

The big problem is, we have such differing ideas about what this should look like I don’t think we can really compare them and certainly not integrate them. AUN! would like it to be a unified state, I would like it to be a set of international organisations like NATO with sovereign states underpinning them.

If we were going for a state, I would like AUN!’s constitution. But I am very much against creating a new state. First, what’s wrong with the ones we’ve got? And second, let’s not create another EU, please.

There is another place in which our ideas diverge, and that’s the likelihood of getting the US on board. AUN!’s Union doesn’t seem to include the US, and that’s probably understandable given the powers he transfers to the monarch and the granting of control of nuclear weapons to the new state.

The Americans are never going to go for involvement in a international organisation that grants power to the Queen. So this new ‘Mediator’ can’t be included in the constitution if we want the US to be involved. Additionally, although I applaud the introduction of the individual rights passage to the draft, the Americans aren’t going to go for it since they already have a bill of rights that they seem quite happy with. If we were going to include a bill of rights as a sort of membership criteria, it would have to be far more limited and vague than the one given.

So given that the constitutions are so different, I think that there’s no point in trying to integrate them. I would suggest we could (in this mad, fantasy, anything-is-possible world) view mine as the first step in creating more associations between the Anglosphere, and AUN!’s as an ultimate possibility for re-uniting the Anglosphere.

I am also gestating further comments. This amendment process is so hard to do in a blog, maybe we should set up a CVS repository somewhere!

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[It currently reads: "you know you're conservative when ... you watch Star Wars thinking the Empire has a point of view", in case I should ever change it.]